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Extreme citizen science.

( Specified instructions for Poseidopolis below. )

Extreme citizen science is a project by University College, London. ECS. Project website.

Extreme citizen science is when common people helps scientiest to make observations. That multiples the observations, speeds up and with more statistical material also to better results. New brains with a wide range of knowledge is a big advantege by integrating public with science. 

This is the tecnique that shows how Poseidopolis and other sites are detected.

Position, deep and workinghight about 2 km. ( 1,96 km )

( " Pinning" must be done at constant workinghight for each object. Poseidopolis is pinned up from workinghight close as possible to 2 km. )

The above structure is obvious a logistic point seen from a workinghight of about 7 km.


Mission for extreme civilisation science.

If interest raises and Google can give even more exact deepfigures down to feet or dm it will be possible to detect and seperate streets and buildings. It will be possible to create cityplans over the flooded settlements and probably there are many houndred undetected.


Position:  33.34 N: 24.13 E. Capital of Atlantis, Poseidopolis. About 80 km2 big area that had about 300 000 inhabitants. Just the structure is detected. 99,99 % detection is still left to 

Position: 35.48.40 N; 27.57.00 E. Capital of Greece, Ur-Athen. 

Position: 32.12.30 N: 29.30.00 E. Capital of Egypt, Rhakotis. Just identified as a probably settlement as nearby Nile floodmouth.

Position 35.11.29 N; 27.15.32 E. Ur-Pylos. Town at sealevel. Was served by the Karpathos channel with freshwater.

Position 36.56.30 N: 26.12.45 E. Ur-Kinaros. Town at Pelasgian lake att -400 meters west of Kinaros. Was from Abantis lake served by the Kinaros channel with freshwater.


Three channals are detected. The longest 6 km is between freshwaterbasins in Poseidopolis. Se painting at link Poseidopolis,Atlantis. All three of them are in accurate north-south direction.

Karpathos channel: Position: 35.17.18 N: 27.25.23 E about 5 km long to  35.14.50 N 27.25.23 E. Detected freshwaterchannel from Karphatos lake that serves Ur-Pylos region with freshwater. See more link Channels.

Kinaros channel: Position: 36.57.50 N: 26.12.09 E about 2 km long to 36.56.55 N 26.12.09 E. Detected freshwaterchannel from Abantis lake that leads to a Ur-Korint at Palesgian lake.See more link: Channels.


Link Hilltops. Ten hilltops are chosen to be of big intrest. The studdy showed is just to identify hilltops that carries vaulable leftings. T

Link: Black sea river. Today Aegan Sea was a prehistoric lakesystem along Blacks Sea river flow. It is a very good area for human population growth with unlimited freshwatersupply, farming and fishing. The big flow of Black Sea River, defined as a waterborder, separates people from each other with a european and asian side. They live peacefully and develop on each side of the waterborder, probably aware of each other but by the waterborder total separated human civilisations until just a few centuries before the flood. There are shores and nearby land and thousend of km to investigate all around the detected lakes. Thrakian lake, Abantis lake, Pelasgian lake, Hercules bowl and  Karphatos lake. Black Sea  prehistoric level is allready known at about -30 m and flooded settlements detected. See  Black Sea ecological collapse.  will raise interest. All along the Black Sea prehistoric coastline there can be at a very reachable deep human leftings of settlements that are 5500 years old. Very little detected and examined.


Conclusion: There is a huge mission ahead of Us to detect prehistoric human civilisation. If satellite pictures can be even more accurate, Extreme citizen science, will be the solution to let common people be able to participate in detecting buildings, streets, channels etc of prehistoric settlements. As the settlements are big and the shores are many thousend Km a ECS project is the only possible solution to make a appropriate investigation.


The corners are set 4 centigrades apart from each other in both directions. As one centigrade is 60 milligrade the corners are set 240 milligrades apart. Each area is 10x10 milligrades and 24 at each direction. 24x24 = 576 areas. Each area covers about 380m x 360 m and that is a lot to investigate with this method. It must be seen as a unik oppertunity to paricipate in a very pioneer investigation. It is obvious that it is just a matter of time before the whole town is of global intrest but intill then there is time to make discoveries that will be known as a discovery of importence and more interest then proffesional archaeologists lifelong total career ever can dream about. The most important buildings, squares and structures will then already be discovered and named that for ever will be used and remebered.


( A1-area: 37.50-38.00 N/ 10.40 - 10.50 E ) ( G1-area: 36:50-37:00 N/ 10.40-10.50 E ) ( M1-area: 35.50-36.00 N/ 10.40-10.50 E ) ( S1-area: 34.50-35.00 E/10.40-10.50 E )

( A2-area 37.50-38.00 N/ 10.50 - 11.00 E ) (A8-area: 37.50-38.00 N / 11.50-12.00 E ) ( A14-area: 37.50-38.00 N/ 12.50-13.00 E ) ( A20-area: 37.50-38.00 N/ 13.50-14.00 E )


Pin up and try to find geometric structures at constant level. Make a picture. Use the icon, save picture, and send it with itīs area-definition as above.  Add Your own comments to what you believe is detected to


Chosen area in example is in the central part of Poseidopolis an I14-area. ( I14-area 36.30-36.40 N/ N ) Pin up an area, save as a picture, tell if there is something detected and send it with its identification to Inbetween the pins set is the are for position I14.


Order a journey to prehistoric capital Poseidopolis Atlantis capital, Greek capital Ur-Athen and Egypt capital, Rhakotis will be visited. Contact auther Carl Festin at e-mail.


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